New Orxonox Web Page

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Post by Nowic » Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:36 pm

I installed The news-flash-macro. It seems to work now... there were random "macro not found" messages, but now they disappeared.

Current test page: http://dev.orxonox.net/wiki/screenshots

@patrick: I would like to update the TracNav, but there is already an old version or something similar installed. I don't want to break anything...
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Post by beni » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:00 pm

It does look.. interesting.. :)
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Post by patrick » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:45 pm

There seems to be an issue with the text alignment :D but I'm sure you already break your head to solve this :wink:

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Post by Nowic » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:04 pm

@patrick:
Yeah, track has problems with the "chrome" plugin directory.

I installed the the NewsFlashMacro: "sudo easy_install TracNewsFlashMacro"

Now our page includes this file, which can't be acessed: http://dev.orxonox.net/chrome/newsflash ... sflash.css

[Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/boenzlip/.python-eggs'

Plugins are stored in you local home directory? Trac is strange... plz help :)

EDIT: I already made a workaround. This problem is not visible to the public :)
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Post by beni » Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:41 pm

Looks GREAT :D
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Post by Nowic » Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:58 pm

thx!

@ all web site people! HELP NEEDED!

While we wait for the final header and while I fix some style bugs, you could start to move the content of our old website into the wiki. I created all the important pages. Feel free to copy content and extend them. Many links need to be fixed too (https -> http).

Home: http://dev.orxonox.net/wiki
About: http://dev.orxonox.net/wiki/about
Screenshots: http://dev.orxonox.net/wiki/screenshots
Download: http://dev.orxonox.net/wiki/download
Development: http://dev.orxonox.net/wiki/development

Note: Please do not attach files (images) to the pages above.

Unfortunately trac does not generate thumbnails, so the screenshot page could get quite big.

BTW: this page is new too: http://dev.orxonox.net/wiki/EngineFeatures
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Post by patrick » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:31 pm

Nicely done guys! Thanks Nowic, Beni, Little-Beni-Brother and Hofzge for your great work!

I will also help to update the page. But at the moment I have my last three weeks of diploma thesis... tough time :?

The new page really rocks already!

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Post by beni » Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:22 pm

Most of the things are done now. Of course there are still a lot of details to add and change.

If you want to help improve the page you can do this like this:
Imagine you're a PPS student, a guy who just wants to play a game, somebody who heard the word "Orxonox" in the bus and searches in google for it. As this person try to browse the website to find out if your needs are met. If this is the case, no further improvement is necessary. If you find it hard to find certain informations, try to improve it, by simply changing the site.

@Patrick: One thing is left to be done. http://www.orxonox.net has yet to be redirected to the wiki. http://dev.orxonox.net could point on "../wiki/development" What do you think?

Also I think we have to start a new svn repository right?
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Post by x3n » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:34 pm

It starts looking good, you're doing a great job :)

Most of what I've seen is already good, there are only a few points:
- Please remove that white-layer-crap and the fragment-boxes from the header (whatever that should have been, it doesn't look right)
- It works only with Firefox, please add support for Internet Explorer and Opera too (the pidgin website works with all browsers, maybe that helps)
- Insert a big fat "NEWS" title at the top of the news-section

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Post by beni » Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:09 am

What exactly is a fragment box? Do you mean the transparent white overlay at the top? It was actually supposed to be there...

The problem is that neither I or Nowic have IE on our ubuntu, so we haven't been able to test that yet.

Added the News title ;-)
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Post by x3n » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:58 am

Image

Well, I've just invented that word. With "fragment box" I wanted to describe the little boxes all around "ORXONOX" (circle 1). Most of them are white, some are red, they look like really strange compression bugs, but I guess they are supposed to be there. It's just - I don't like them, it looks odd.

Circle 2 shows the white layer. In my opinion it's ugly, especially with those lines in it. It might look better when it's blurred, but I'd rather drop it completely.

But if you like it, then - of course - let it as it is, but if I was a random visitor I would be irritated.


Thanks for adding the News title, looks good now.

@browser: It might be sufficent to test it with Opera, I've experienced some parallels between Opera and Internet Explorer while working on my own page (at least the bug in the current code is the same in both browsers). If it works with Opera I'll have a look at it with IE and report you if it works. ;)

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Post by hofzge » Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:12 am

Well it seemed to me we had agreed on this design earlier in the process and called a vote. If you don't like this blurred thing - I like it. I don't think we should changed just because you don't like it, but we could vote again on a few alternatives.
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Post by beni » Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:09 pm

Well without anything up there it doesn't look so good anyways. We can redo the vote. Changing this is not that much of a problem, if enough people are unhappy with it.

The problem with IE is the following: IE does not support PNG-transparency which means, that those layers are completely f***ed up. I already sent Nowic pure sliced jpgs. Let's hope that this solves most of the problems.
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Post by x3n » Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:25 pm

hofzge wrote:Well it seemed to me we had agreed on this design earlier in the process and called a vote. If you don't like this blurred thing - I like it. I don't think we should changed just because you don't like it, but we could vote again on a few alternatives.
Well, just to remind you:
I proposed 1 day before the "vote" (which wasn't actually a vote, the question was "What do you like better?") a design withouth the broad white band over "ORXONOX" (click), because most of you (including me) prefered a smaller header.
But the vote was only like "with or without opaque white band", there was no option "without any layer" although it was my first proposition, and - as you said - we agreed on "without", you're right, but I complained early about the white layer, so I'm feeling a bit ignored right now.

It might sound harsh when I call it "ugly", but I'm not the man for faked praise, I prefer criticism (you're welcome to criticise my work too), it helps more to achieve mayor improvements.
But if most of you like it, I'll accept that withouth complaints. ;)



@beni: I think IE supports PNG trancparency since version 7, at least it looked like in Firefox, there was only a problem with the wiki-buttons, look here:
http://upload.x3n.ch/files/wiki_with_IE.jpg

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Post by bensch » Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:35 pm

I really like the boarder like this, although it is true, that the the whole thing is a little bit to high and I would be on for a new VOTE with smaller borders anytime. (please support one with the current transparent layer, I really like it :) )

Anyways, the current one can't stay as is, as I have internet explorer 5 or something and it looks like this:
http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~grauerb/ie.JPG

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